User Tools

Site Tools


info:40m

Differences

This shows you the differences between two versions of the page.

Link to this comparison view

Both sides previous revisionPrevious revision
Next revision
Previous revision
info:40m [2024/09/08 06:52] m0lteinfo:40m [2025/02/15 14:40] (current) – [7050-7053 sub-band plan] m0lte
Line 1: Line 1:
 ====== 40m Packet ====== ====== 40m Packet ======
  
-7047.45 (centre) has been used for FSK300 IL2P packet for some time now, but suffers from bad general QRM / other digital mode traffic.+7047.45 (centre) was used for FSK300 packet for some time, but suffers from bad general QRM / other digital mode traffic.
  
-There is a carve-out in the UK 40m band plan for unattended digital modes at 7050 to 7053. [[https://ukrepeater.net/|ETCC]] have been perfectly willing to grant FACs within that carve-out for UK packet radio stations.+There is a carve-out in the UK 40m band plan for unattended digital modes at 7050 to 7053. [[https://ukrepeater.net/|ETCC]] have already granted several FACs within that carve-out for UK packet radio stations.
  
 There is a known long-standing source of QRM at 7055 LSB (3kHz), rendering the top 1kHz of the carve-out compromised. There is a known long-standing source of QRM at 7055 LSB (3kHz), rendering the top 1kHz of the carve-out compromised.
  
-Known UK users have now migrated to that carve-out, as follows:+UK users have now migrated to the sub-band between 7050 and 7053, as follows:
  
 ===== 7050-7053 sub-band plan ===== ===== 7050-7053 sub-band plan =====
  
-^  Slot^ Usage               ^ Centre freq ^ USB dial freq   ^ +^  Slot^ Usage               ^ Centre freq ^ USB dial freq   ^ NinoTNC MODE DIP switch 
-^  1| AX.25 FSK300 IL2P+CRC  | 7050.30     | 7048.60 (FSK) (7048.8 if channel is migrated to BPSK in future) +^  1| AX.25 FSK300 IL2P+CRC  | 7050.30     | 7048.60 (FSK) (7048.8 if channel is migrated to BPSK in future)  | 1110 / 14 
-^  2| ARDOP 500Hz            | 7050.95     | 7049.45         | +^  2| ARDOP 500Hz            | 7050.95     | 7049.45         
-^  3| AX.25 BPSK300 IL2P+CRC | 7051.60     | 7050.10         |+^  3| AX.25 BPSK300 IL2P+CRC | 7051.60     | 7050.10         | 1000 / 8 |
  
 Note - For Slot 1, NinoTNC tone frequency centre is 1500Hz for BPSK, 1700Hz for FSK.  Hence different dial freq. Note - For Slot 1, NinoTNC tone frequency centre is 1500Hz for BPSK, 1700Hz for FSK.  Hence different dial freq.
Line 36: Line 36:
 Slot 1 is currently FSK300 IL2P+CRC AX.25 (packet). Slot 2 is reserved for ARDOP (not AX.25) in coordination with existing users. Slot 3 is currently BPSK300 IL2P+CRC AX.25 (packet). Slot 1 is currently FSK300 IL2P+CRC AX.25 (packet). Slot 2 is reserved for ARDOP (not AX.25) in coordination with existing users. Slot 3 is currently BPSK300 IL2P+CRC AX.25 (packet).
  
-IL2P is Improved Layer 2 Protocol.+IL2P is Improved Layer 2 Protocol. +CRC is a recent enhancement over IL2P to bring the chance of corrupt frames being returned to the host to effectively zero
  
-+CRC is a recent enhancement to bring the chance of corrupt frames being returned to the host to effectively zero.+**All HF stations in this sub-band use and require IL2P+CRC.**
  
-FSK300 IL2P+CRC //sounds like// "classic" 300 baud AX.25 packet, but is not decodeable by legacy modems+FSK300 IL2P+CRC //sounds like// "classic" 300 baud AX.25 packet, but is not decodeable by legacy TNCs
  
 BPSK is binary phase-shift keying, an alternative to frequency-shift keying, which achieves around 7dB more sensitivity, all else being equal. BPSK is binary phase-shift keying, an alternative to frequency-shift keying, which achieves around 7dB more sensitivity, all else being equal.
  
-IL2P+CRC and BPSK are decodable by G8BPQ's QtSoundModem and the hardware KISS NinoTNC.+IL2P+CRC and BPSK are decodable by [[https://www.cantab.net/users/john.wiseman/Documents/QtSoundModem.html|G8BPQ's QtSoundModem]] and the hardware KISS [[https://wiki.oarc.uk/packet:ninotnc|NinoTNC]]
  
 ===== Notes ===== ===== Notes =====
Line 52: Line 52:
 With 600Hz occupied bandwidth, there is 50Hz guard between slots. With 600Hz occupied bandwidth, there is 50Hz guard between slots.
  
-We will be close together, but not overlapping. It is important to be accurate with frequency selection.+We are close together, but not overlapping. Just because you hear tones other than your own mode, doesn't mean your modem can't hear the expected mode - the audio tones don't overlap
  
-Precise occupied bandwidth is dependent on both the mode and the particular modem implementation.+It is important to be accurate with frequency selection, and to ensure the cleanliness of your transmissions (use a websdr to monitor, you should be ~500Hz wide with clean edges. If you aren't, you are likely overdriving your radio with too much audio, or have a ground loop [[https://wiki.oarc.uk/radios:ft-450d#usage_with_ninotnc|info on resolving that]]). 
 + 
 +Precise occupied bandwidth is dependent on both the mode and the particular modem implementation - and this is different from determining interoperability.
  
 QPSK2400 (~2.4kHz occupied bandwidth for 2400bps) has proven too difficult for the SNRs we can practically achieve on 40m HF NVIS. QPSK2400 (~2.4kHz occupied bandwidth for 2400bps) has proven too difficult for the SNRs we can practically achieve on 40m HF NVIS.
  
-IL2P+CRC is favoured over IL2P since the data corruption rate with straight IL2P was unacceptably high in practice on HF. +===== QtSoundModem recipe for monitoring traffic =====
- +
-===== QtSoundModem recipe ===== +
- +
-Tested in an RX scenario. Might be incomplete for TX.+
  
-Set the radio to 7049.35 USB+Set the radio dial to 7049.45 USB
  
 Set modem 1 (slot 1) to: Set modem 1 (slot 1) to:
Line 72: Line 70:
   * Send CRC: checked   * Send CRC: checked
   * Check CRC: checked   * Check CRC: checked
-  * AFSK AX.25 300bd @ 950Hz+  * AFSK AX.25 300bd @ 850Hz
  
 Set modem 2 (slot 3) to: Set modem 2 (slot 3) to:
Line 80: Line 78:
   * Send CRC: checked   * Send CRC: checked
   * Check CRC: checked   * Check CRC: checked
-  * BPSK AX.25 300bd @ 2250Hz+  * BPSK AX.25 300bd @ 2150Hz
  
-ARDOP can be decoded with ''ardopf'' or ''adopdc'' - the first comes recommended. The slot 2 centre frequency - for ARDOP - is at a fixed 1500Hz offset. You need to run in limited bandwidth mode ARQBW 500MAX - maybe 1000 - need to test that.+ARDOP can be decoded simultaneously with ''ardopf''. The slot 2 centre frequency - for ARDOP - is at a fixed 1500Hz offset. You need to run in limited bandwidth mode ARQBW 500MAX - maybe 1000 - need to test that.
info/40m.1725778367.txt.gz · Last modified: 2024/09/08 06:52 by m0lte

Donate Powered by PHP Valid HTML5 Valid CSS Driven by DokuWiki